The bad news is that they are costing more than we can really afford. Certainly more than we would spend on millk and goat cheese yearly. The good news is that if we stay organized and motivated we have the potential to sell enough shares in our herd, which in a convoluted way allows the exchange of money for keeping of goat, and that goat's milk... that the goats will at least pay for a significant portion of their expenses. Here are some of our current feed costs:
- Brome Hay $7-10 for 50lb. We buy a variety of hay. This year we bought about half our hay from a farm nearby for $7 a bale, the bales weighed heavy, we had to be very selective and the quality varied greatly. The other half of our hay we had to drive 45 miles for, it was beautiful, the goats love it, but it was $10 a bale plus gas and time...
- Alfalfa hay, we've been paying $39.99 for 90-100 lb. bales of imported alfalfa from the feed store. I really need to find a cheaper source of Alfalfa. We just started feeding it to our milkers again, as they really need it the extra calories, the higher protein and the calcium this time of year.
- Alfalfa pellets, at 18.99 for a 50 lb. bag, I don't see why we are buying these when we can just feed the fresh stuff, but we keep them around and feed them when we are out of alfalfa hay.
- Whole Oats 10.99 for 50lb. We could and should get these cheaper by buying in bulk. Same with the Barley.
- Whole Barley 10.99 for 50lb.
- Black Oil Sunflower Seeds 24.99 for 40lb.
- Wheat Berries $38.00 50lb
- Sweetlix vitamin mineral supplement for goats $29.99 25lb.
- Looking over the last years receipts we pay around $150 for herbal supplements, herbal wormers and herbal tinctures.
I broke down the feed into how much each cost by the pound. For vet expenses, vitamins, herbals and the miscellaneous expenses, I divided the total estimated amount, or receipts by our winter herd number which was and should continue to be about eleven goats.
We are feeding our milkers each a day when in milk:
- 5 lb. brome hay (took nine dollars per 50lb) .90
- 1 lb. alfalfa hay .39
- 2 lb. whole mixed grains, whole oats, whole barley, BOSS, and wheat berries .82
The rest of the goats are less money to keep. The bucks do fine on brome with a small amount of mixed grain and alfalfa pellets. They also get herbal wormer, b.soda and sweetlix vitamin supplement. They cost closer to $36 each a month, $432 a year, $1554 for all three. The kids and yearlings cost the least, they eat less hay and grain, but they do often take a toll on their dams, continuing to nurse long past when they need it.
So it looks like we are spending close to eight thousand dollars a year to feed and care for our goats. Where does that leave us? Well, it is going to take quite a bit more math to figure out exactly how much milk we get for our money. I think instead of figuring what we should be getting, for each pound of hay and grain we are feeding, I'll be keeping track of what we milk this year and adding up how many pounds of milk we get each month.
With the current amount we are charging for goat shares and milking fees, if we provide eight months of milk- which we won't this year, we would take in $4,450 for ten shares. We could most likely double that if we got better at milking twice a day, and weaning the kids on time etc. So the potential for the herd to pay for itself is there. Now, the question is, are we game? Or, rather, am I game?
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Yowie kazowie! I don't think I really wanted to know that, as we're up to 28 goats!
I've been looking at numbers and feed cost for our herd, and I'm adjusting the amount of grain each goat is getting. I think I can get by feeding less grain. I'll see how it goes. I feel very blessed to live within 5 miles of all the bulk barley and oats I could ever want, plus 800-pound hay bales at a very good price.
However, we're looking at growing some of our own crops to feed the goats - a mixture of field peas and oats to feed instead of alfalfa, mangel beets and carrots for added carbs, and an oil seed called camelina that is a promising choice for high vitamin E, omega-3 fatty acids, and antioxidants. We also plan to harvest and dry a lot of leaves, brush, and weeds for winter feed supplementation.
We'll see how it goes.
Denise, after I wrote this post, my husband suggested I follow it up with a post on ways to bring the feed costs down. We've experimented with growing oats, barley, hardy alfalfa, mangels and turnips for the goats. We also gather brush and weeds for the goats. They get veggie scraps from the kitchen almost daily. And I also gathered and dried some of our own herbs which we fed them this winter, nettles, dandelion and raspberry leaves. I'm not quite feeding two pounds of grain to the does yet, but I know I've got a couple high producers that will need that. Just cutting out cob or goat chow reduces our grain costs by half. Got your email, been doing some thinking, gonna do a post on our different kids and why i'm having a hard time figuring out who to sell. Take care, Emily
Wow Emily! Yea I haven't looked at the goat costs for us as they are/were more pets (and fiber goats for what it's worth). There's a gal in Oregon who runs a family milk cow, and beef on pasture who has some good info on growing your own root crops for winter feed, http://matronofhusbandry.wordpress.com/.
It's gotten me thinking of doing similar stuff for our critters. Also, I want to look into other feed sources (we have had our goats on goat chow and I know we are throwing out good money..)
We do watch our chicken/egg costs and hope to be able to sustainably produce broilers for close to the cost of a similar bird in the store... We'll see.
Yes, I love the Throwback at Trapper Creek Farm blog. She inspired me to start growing our own root crops for the goats. We've kept track enough of our chicken expenses to know that the layers produce enough eggs to cover their feed costs. The broilers end up costing the equivalent of organic chicken at the store, at least last I did the math, but it is so worth it. I love having roasters in the freezer, I meant to pull one out this morning for a Saturday roast chicken. Emily
We just bought two alpine kid does so all of this is of interest to us.
I am keeping a ledger of our expenses too.
Warm wishes, Tonya
So if you doubled the milk-output you could cover the feed expenses. Great. Where does the expense on the infrastructure, bedding, and labor fit in? How about tools and equipment? (hoof-cleaning, milking supplies, feeders, waterers, lights, pick-up truck for hauling hay, etc.) Do you eat meat? Or do you sell the bucklings/weathers? That's an income, too. But then you have to substract the butchering & marketing expenses. Would you mind sharing with us the adjusted numbers? Thanks!
Anonymous, figuring out the adjusted numbers and posting them is a job for winter - that is when I have more time for informative posts. We do sell or eat the wethers. I've come to believe that you can get your money's worth out of your goat herd with strict and careful management, milking twice daily for longer periods of time, selling doelings, not keeping bucks or too many younger goats. I'll try and write a new post this winter including other costs. Thanks for your interest.
I've been VERY curious as to the per goat/month cost, as we (mostly me) are wanting to get goats in the future. This is very helpful info.
Thanks!!
Do yours have lots of pasture? We are on a 1000 acre farm now and have lots of pasture & forrest. I'm trying o get an idea of what I should feed to supplement their pasture grazing and how much it might run us.
Talina, we have no pasture. We have nine acres of Boreal forest and a long driveway with Willow and fireweed. I would think that when your goats are on pasture that all they might need are quality vitamins and minerals. I guess, depending on the variety of your pasture. It seems like goats do well with lots of brush and weeds. I would put goats on pasture with minerals supplemented and see how they do. What you feed them on the stand or if you feed them on the stand is totally up to you. I would see how they look and how they are producing and make decisions from there. Best wishes - and so envious; Emily
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